Paper Chase 1 - Cough in Kids

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Nurses Edition Commentary

Mizuho Spangler, DO, Lisa Chavez, RN, and Kathy Garvin, RN
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Sean G., M.D. -

Sanjay, Mike, could someone clarify...I thought I heard one of you mention..."they got tylenol or motrin" did I hear that? I mean if so how was this variable controlled? If tylenol and or motrin was given how would you make a conclusion about efficacy of honey, agave nectar, gluten free gummie bears etc?

Larissa B., MD -

Tylenol and Motrin were given to both groups.

James C. -

"Agave nectar and placebo performed the same, and both were better than no treatment." Both had Grape flavoring... maybe that's the answer!

Sean G., M.D. -

so if tylenol and motrin were given to both groups I would say the study was done poorly, too many uncontrolled variables...what dose was given? How often was it given...no way the use of tylenol and motrin were EXACTLY the same in both groups. I knew I heard somebody mention..."tylenol and Motrin were given....and I was like??????Why is there some inherent need to give these drugs? This sounds like yet another "study" which was essentially a waste of time more mental masturbation IMO. I wish there were about 1/100th the amount of studies done out there and we could narrow them down to well done studies without industry bias and with a reasonable number of pts. Like studies with 20 patients...Who cares? I can flip a coin 20 times and potentially get heads every time, doesnt mean both sides of the coin are heads. Sorry for the rant.

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