Pediatric Pearls – Floppy Baby

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Kathy Garvin, RN and Lisa Chavez, RN
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Sean G., M.D. -

I think u could avoid bashing naturopathy and homeopathy. Lets remember that our threshold is "non inferior to placebo" and no obvious harm suspected....and the absolute fraudulent behavior of Big Pharma and the complicity w Big Pharma of the supposed "watchdog" agencies. Remember stroking pts out w SL nifedipine in the 90's? How about all those "harmless" NSAIDS we pushed on people for decades before we figured out they can cause ACS? How about all the expensive immune agents marketed to people with psoriasis, and the 5 min car salesmen blurb at the end of the commercials pointing out sudden death has been reported....but hell their skin was clear! How about Abilifly being the number 1 drug sold for use in children w depression in 2015....I think 750 billion i sales? And its NEVER been studied in children!!!! Yeah I think the last thing we allopaths should be doing is laughing off herbal medicine because ours are "so good". Other than that, nice review.

ilene c. -

Good points. Not my goal to bash homeopathy. However, also think it is important to recognize how unregulated those medications are. Just like anything else, some aren't what they are advertised to be and some are. Doesn't mean that routine medications haven't been problematic as well. But I do suspect that when you give SL nifedipine, you are giving SL nifedipine. That doesn't make it safe or OK, it just makes it nifedipine. With many CAM therapies that patients purchase OTC, they may be getting something other than that which they intend to purchase. Both problematic, but not entirely the same set of problems.

Bradley K. -

Thanks Drs. Claudius and Behar for this case. Had a case of a 3 month old with poor tone. Constipation for 5 days and poor latch. Floppy on examination, but had dilatated fatigable pupils. Normal vitals. No known exposure to CAM, honey, or nearby construction sites. Thanks to this pearl we considered infantile botulism early and were able to transfer patient to tertiary care children's hospital early. We considered septic workup for baby with poor tone, but no hx of fevers. Deferred LP to children's hospital. Any thoughts on early administration of antibiotics worsening toxin release? Thanks for this case presentation to help clinch a diagnosis.

ilene c. -

Early administration of gentamycin is thought to worsen the paralysis. Anecdotally, I had a similar case many years back. We have amp and gent and by the morning, the child was a rag doll! I like to think of it as a diagnostic tool (totally kidding!). Great pick-up on your part!

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